1. God can’t and won’t ever let go of anyone’s hand, because God is the being in everyone… There is nothing without God… how would a human being know how to exist if it wasn’t for God holding his or her being in existence?

    The idea of a relationship between God and humanity where God can step in and out of involvement is deeply flawed. There cannot at the same time be an omnipotent, omnipresent God and human separateness.

    Thanks Dawn!

  2. I think that you and Eckhart agree. Eckhart was responding to the ill-conceived notion that God does let go of some and not others. Eckhart’s response is I think “tongue in cheek” …well if God ever did such a thing, I would kick up such a fuss that God would change God’s mind… Eckhart, and I agree with him, was a panentheist who believed that everything is in God and God is more than the sum total of everything. So, as you say Steven, the idea of God stepping in and out of involvement is deeply flawed. But I do think we need to move away from the qualifiers “omnipotent, omnipresent” as these tend to take people back to an old way of thinking. I believe that the deep connection between God and all things means that God’s power is available to us. We are the embodiment of God and as such co-creators. As we evolve, so does God.
    Appreciate the conversation, thanks Steve.

    • Many thanks Dawn. I think I largely agree with you, except for what you said about the terms ‘omnipotent, omnipresent’, etc. I think they are very useful terms and I don’t have the same sense of them being tied to an old way of thinking that you do. I could equally have said ‘all powerful and everywhere’, but that feels to me as though I am saying the same thing. Perhaps you have had bad experiences with the ‘omni’s’ that I don’t know about?!

      Having read what you said about the quote from Meister Eckhart, I have to admit, I’m not really sure I understand what he was getting at! Maybe I need more context.

      Anyway, thanks again!

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